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RE: Using dd.exe to make forensic images of NTFS drives
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  • To: "'Sakaba'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  • Subject: RE: Using dd.exe to make forensic images of NTFS drives
  • From: "Reava, Jeffrey [IT/0200]" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  • Date: Mon, 11 Aug 2003 15:48:41 -0500
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Sending an image out using dd and netcat may effectively make the system
unusable from a production standpoint while the image is being transferred,
and the malware will be running the whole time you're imaging and analyzing.

Win32 binaries of Sleuthkit utilities (www.sleuthkit.org) work on system
partitions (almost) as well as on image files. They'll give you more
information than the usual volatile sources without having to wait for an
image to complete. You can check every binary and copy off those that are
suspicious, and use prebuilt hash sets/config files to make sure that you're
only sending off the types of files that are relevant to the examination. 

It'll still spike your processor & disk utilization, but it should give
enough information to decide between leaving the system up or taking it down
for proper imaging.

Jeff

-----Original Message-----
From: Sakaba [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 4:53 AM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Using dd.exe to make forensic images of NTFS drives



Hi everyone,

Thanks for your responses.

I've tested with bootable linux (FIRE, Knoppix STD) and using
the dd command works fine.  Its just using dd.exe while live on
windows.

Some of you asked why I would want to do that.  The reason is
taking down servers to do investigations is not something we
want to do unless we have a lot of evidence that it is life or
death to begin with.  You don't know this purely from examining
the volatile data sources.  I want the capability to take live
images of windows machines without having to reboot them and
without having to use thier binaries.  The FIRE cd's forensic
shell can be started simply by inserting the CD and pressing the
button off autorun.  It uses its own binaries and other than the
minor changes from inserting the CD doesn't make changes that I
would care about.  I just wished it worked.

Does anyone know of a tried and tested method of taking a live
image off a running windows machine without taking it offline or
rebooting to linux cd or anything else that would disrupt
operations.

Thanks,
Sakaba
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