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Re: bootable readonly media in your pocket Re: yes, its t0rn again
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  • To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
  • Subject: Re: bootable readonly media in your pocket Re: yes, its t0rn again
  • From: Ed Padin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
  • Date: Fri, 05 Jan 2001 22:47:51 +0100
  • In-reply-to: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Don't know if it'll fit on a small CD but look for a distribution called
Finnix. It's a mostly full distribution of RH 6-sumthin'. It takes a long
time to download the compressed iso image. The guy that wrote it configured
it to mount all writable directories on ram disks. I was able to create my
own disk to suit my needs using his example. You'll need a cd writer to
create the CD.

Cheque it--> http://www.finnix.org/





----- Original Message -----
From: "marc" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Friday, January 05, 2001 1:22 PM
Subject: bootable readonly media in your pocket Re: yes, its t0rn again


> On Thu, 4 Jan 2001, Robert Horn wrote:
>
> > > Em Tue, Jan 02, 2001 at 11:33:45PM -0800, Andrew Edelstein escreveu:
> > >> Make sure your md5sum binary is also on immutable media. It doesn't
do you any
> > >> good to have known good checksums, if the binary that does the
checking can be
> > >> hacked to tell you what the hacker wants it to tell you.
>
> Does anyone know of an iso distribution of linux already built to
> do this?  I am familiar w/ trinux, but id like a bootable cd that already
> has the ability to mount different filesystems, md5 check, etc.  At SANS i
> saw someone was walking around giving out small recovery cdroms like this
> that were cut down to the size of a credit card.  Id really like one of
> those.
>
> marc
>
>  > >
> > > That may also not be enough. A library could have been hacked, md5sum
should be
> > > statically linked. And, if a kernel module has been inserted, then all
bets
> > > are off, you would have to reboot from a known kernel to be sure.
> >
> > One convenience for some systems is to create a mountable and bootable
> > CDROM with:
> >  1. The md5sums
> >  2. A program for checking the md5sums.  If you write one of your own
> >     in C or some other language that generates executable code you
> >     increase the difficulty of a modified kernel recognizing and
> >     defeating it.
> >  3. A usable small complete OS for initial forensics.
> >
> > A modified kernel can hide modifications by trapping filesystem I/O, so
> > only rebooting directly from the CDROM with the known good OS and tools
> > is the only way to detect kernel modifications.  Using a CDROM is just a
> > convenience. It avoids dis-assembling the computer to take the suspect
> > disks over to another known good system for analysis.  It is usually
> > much easier to reboot from the CDROM.
> >
> > If they've penetrated the boot ROM, well, you can reflash it from a
> > known good copy.
> >
> > R Horn
> >
>
> marc
>
> import sigfile







 
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