RE: [Nessus-announce] Nessus Roadmap / Nessus 3.0.0rc1testers wa nted

["Kaplan, Andrew H." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>]

I endorse Mikhail's viewpoint on this matter. 



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Hi List,
I would invite you people to consider numbers, and leave away emotions.
1. We are getting two Nessus scanners. It that good or bad?
I believe that is good. Even the second one non-GPL.
2. Do we need old Nessus constantly changing with two month between versions?
It's been a headache for me (keeping it connected to my DB extension for
instance). The most important is a stable version. It is very likely that
Tenable will keep debugging GPL version, because it costs much less than
developing new.
3. How much time did we put in GPL version? Considering the list activity, we
invested mostly in testing. Say we saved 10% or less of Renaud time. I would not
consider this as major contribution. If the community has some guts, lets go
ahead and slowly develop GPL Nessus. I can even contribute my NessusDBX DB
extension.
4. We got free Nessus. For the majority of us the process will be the same:
install, use, debug, use again. I bet may be only one off one hundred ever
looked at the code. I did sometimes on plugins, but not the engine. So, with
free-Nessus we got more options, so I would not complain.
5. The worse case scenario is if Tenable makes Free-Nessus not-so-free in a
couple of years. Is this possible? Of course. However, if out community is
capable of the development of GPL-Nessus, we have a plenty of time. Otherwise do
not complain.


Mikhail Utin
AIS Security
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401-832-6584


-----Original Message-----
From: Renaud Deraison [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 1:55 PM
To: Paul Mraz
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Subject: Re: [Nessus-announce] Nessus Roadmap / Nessus 3.0.0rc1 testers wanted


On Oct 5, 2005, at 13:49, Paul Mraz wrote:

> Virtually nobody isn't nobody: have you obtained permission from  
> all copyright holders of patches to relicense their intellectual  
> property?

Yes.


> I see, you like to use the open source community to test, patch,  
> and help develop your product but you no longer want to anty-up,  
> and give back to the community that made you.

I give away that product to the community. For free. Not GPL != $$$.

> There was once was a time Tenable couldn't afford to write all  
> their own plugins --- they can thank the open souce community for  
> their roots, and they do so by throwing up the middle finger after  
> they have some market headway.

That's a new one. Before Tenable I was writing a huge majority of the  
plugins, and with Tenable we're are writing an overwhelming majority  
of the plugins.




                                 -- Renaud
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